FEBE 10 and Pale Moon 28

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FEBE 10 and Pale Moon 28

Postby BackerUpper » Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:48 am

The upcoming v28 version of Pale Moon (currently in Alpha - announcement here) is a fairly major upgrade. FEBE seems to work normally.

The only issue I've found is that Search Plugins are not being restored. There's no apparent error message. My current searchPlugins.fbu file was created with Pale Moon 27.
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Re: FEBE 10 and Pale Moon 28

Postby cbaker_admin » Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:23 am

Does PM v28 have a searchplugins folder in its profile directory? FEBE zips this folder to create the searchPlugins{profileName}.fbu backup file. And when restoring, it unzips the file into that folder.
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Re: FEBE 10 and Pale Moon 28

Postby BackerUpper » Sat Jun 02, 2018 7:34 am

I created a new profile, added a new search engine to the default ones and no, that folder is not there. There is a search.json.mozlz4 file which I think is related to search plugins.
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Re: FEBE 10 and Pale Moon 28

Postby cbaker_admin » Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:28 am

Mozilla made that change with Fx v44. They also changed cookies and permissions. Before I update FEBE, I'll wait until PM v28 is out of alpha to see if there are any other changes.
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Re: FEBE 10 and Pale Moon 28

Postby BackerUpper » Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:39 am

Pale Moon 28 beta and preliminary release plans

FEBE seems ok, except for the Search Plugins mentioned above.
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Re: FEBE 10 and Pale Moon 28

Postby cbaker_admin » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:26 pm

Thanks for the update. I will wait until the v28 stable release is out before I update FEBE. If I were to fix the search engine issue now, it would be broken in v27.
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Re: FEBE 10 and Pale Moon 28

Postby BackerUpper » Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:54 am

A positive thing I've noticed when restoring the search.json.mozlz4 file, is that this time search engine keywords are also restored. Unfortunately, the search engine order is again not restored - that info probably resides somewhere else.
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Re: FEBE 10 and Pale Moon 28

Postby BackerUpper » Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:43 pm

Final version is out. Indeed, it looks like some further changes were made.

The "search.json.mozlz4" file is no longer present. I see "search.json" and "search-metadata.json".
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Re: FEBE 10 and Pale Moon 28

Postby cbaker_admin » Thu Aug 16, 2018 4:36 pm

I ran some tests and FEBE v10.2 seems to work fine with PM v28. The search plugins are stored the same way PM v27 did it. I went ahead and uploaded FEBE 10.3 with only a version compatibility to Pale Moon v28.

To your knowledge, is everything else backing up/restoring ok in PM v28?
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Re: FEBE 10 and Pale Moon 28

Postby BackerUpper » Mon Aug 20, 2018 2:49 am

Yes, everything I tried works fine. :thumbup:
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Re: FEBE 10 and Pale Moon 28

Postby BackerUpper » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:51 am

Forgot to mention that with the final, stable release of Pale Moon 28 the search plugins are now properly backed up (they weren't in the pre-release versions) but their keywords are not being backed up/restored.

I assume this is related to the search.json.mozlz4 file which was implemented in the pre-release versions of PM28 but is now gone from the final, current versions. As previously mentioned, backing up and restoring search.json.mozlz4 took care of both the search engines and their keywords.

Would it be possible for FEBE to also back up the search engine keywords with the current 'system'? I am not sure where they are stored/located.

I remember you said in the past that the only way to restore the search engines order, would be to restore the entire profile. Perhaps it's the same situation with the keywords?
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Re: FEBE 10 and Pale Moon 28

Postby cbaker_admin » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:56 pm

If you are referring to the function "Add a Keyword for this Search..." when you right-click on a search field, that information appears to be stored in a table named "moz_keywords" located in the [profile]/places.sqlite file. You could set up a FEBE user-defined backup for places.sqlite, but restoring it would also restore bookmarks, favicons, visit history and other items along with the keywords.
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Re: FEBE 10 and Pale Moon 28

Postby BackerUpper » Tue Oct 16, 2018 12:46 am

Thank you, "Add a Keyword for this Search..." is pretty cool. Didn't know about it - I think those are stored as regular bookmarks and should be straightforward to backup/restore.

I wasn't referring to that though, but rather the "Manage Search Engines..." section which can be accessed from the search bar on the top right and takes you to the "Manage Search Engine List". You can add keywords there ("Edit Keyword..." button) for the currently installed search engines. It works similarly to the "Add a Keyword for this Search..." you mentioned but I can't see a way to backup/restore these keywords.
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Re: FEBE 10 and Pale Moon 28

Postby cbaker_admin » Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:47 am

The keywords for search engines are located in the file search-metadata.json in your profile directory. You can create a FEBE user-defined backup for that file to restore the keywords.
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Re: FEBE 10 and Pale Moon 28

Postby BackerUpper » Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:30 pm

Perfect, thanks very much. :thumbup:
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